I think you may need to expand on that time control a wee bit. Is it an extra 15 minutes and then you lose on time or are the Quickplay finish rules in effect for the final 2 minutes? If the quckplay rules apply I assume you have a system in place for those claiming draws under the quickplay rules with no arbiter present.'
( post by John McNicoll)
These are indeed valid points but ones which I don't think I can make a determination on without consulting with arbiters on the matter.
I would actually be inclined to increase the number of required moves to 35 over 70 minutes with a 10-minute (rapid play finish) Most clubs will run for two hours and a 'bit' (roughly 7.30 to 10 pm) .
I accept that the extra 10 minutes may involve a 'spill' into a later time, so, perhaps, we need to look at Clubs opening a bit earlier or finishing a bit later on the night in question?
All else failing, play in a pub!
One argument for having games played in a Club venue is the likelihood that another person might be able to act, dispassionately as 'judge and jury' but, obviously, only with the agreement of both players.
While I am personally attracted to the idea of a 'quickplay' finish, I think the technical issue of arbitration
(as John implies) makes it more problematic.
A draw claimed that is disputed by the opponent can, of course, occur in traditional play also.
The options that I would ask arbiters to consider are:
(1) keep the current proposed 30-moves in an hour and 15 minute rapid play (no quickplay) as announced
(2) change over to 35 moves in 70 minutes with 10/15 minute rapid play (no quickplay)
(3) use either (1) or (2) with a quickplay finish
(4) none of the above ( and please state what)

The arbiter's opinions and assistance in this matter would be very much appreciated.

Chris 'Laidlaw'

Just a bit of fun. Top 20 juniors by rise in grade so far are -

Name Club Games Published Live Rise
Pannwitz Kai IV 22 J10 1230 1610 380
Gray Euan NJ 25 J10 368 686 318
McCusker Andrew HA 32 J13 1217 1503 286
McCusker Kirsty HA 18 J11 468 661 193
Thomas Daniel R EK 23 J15 1549 1741 192
Gillies Andrew HA 24 J11 487 636 149
Scott Jonathan JG 28 J16 1848 1978 130
Wynne Stuart L1 22 J13 1065 1192 127
Gourlay Aaron PR 18 J11 414 538 124
Roy Kiron KR 15 J14 1424 1535 111
Sreeves Clement ED 34 J19 2148 2257 109
Shafi Declan CH 13 J11 1000 1106 106
Abdulla Murad BA 25 J11 1442 1546 104
Olson Hamish BA 15 J17 1667 1770 103
Kennedy Fraser GR 15 J13 297 391 94
Richmond Liam OB 10 J 9 886 975 89
Campbell Michael SI 9 J 8 552 638 86
DepasqualeDuncan AC 5 J11 595 680 85
Dawson Euan LD 13 J10 535 619 84
Van Heese Jan HA 7 J12 850 933 83

Top Adults are

Mitchell Mike GI 33 NEW 1400 1556 156
Robertson Jim EK 40 - 1479 1610 131
Howie Derek EK 23 NEW 1031 1154 123
Morris Ian G GN 27 - 1431 1535 104
James Chris DR 13 - 1714 1805 91
Nisbet Charles LS 12 - 1480 1570 90
Smith Stephen H ST 18 - 1670 1756 86
Deary David GD 14 - 1655 1736 81
MacDonald Paul H GD 26 - 1822 1902 80
Birnie Alan J IR 14 - 1691 1771 80
Brown Steven A GM 9 - 1922 1994 72
Dempsey Graham ER 9 - 1770 1840 70
Blake Gerard PA 10 - 994 1058 64
Cassidy Bernard HA 26 - 1438 1501 63
Alexander Ian CO 5 - 1051 1110 59
Grove Michael CH 24 NEW 1851 1909 58
McGovern Patrick GD 10 - 1703 1761 58
Douglas William IR 5 - 1208 1265 57
Payada Dmitriy CH 10 NEW 1944 2000 56
Chapman Nigel BS 14 - 1621 1674 53

I am in second place in the adult table of biggest fall in grade so far this season, with a minus of 107. I will therefore be revising my objective of becoming a 2000+ rated player by the end of the 2014-15 season and am now being realistic by putting this back a year or two.

Results are now available at http://www.dundee-congress.co.uk/results%202011.htm and on the front page of the CS website.

Grading performances will follow shortly.

My thanks to:
The arbiters - Mike Roth, Donald Wilson and Jim Anderson
Open Sea Engineering and Universis Technology for financial support, and to the players who made donations to congress funds
Anne and Peter Woods
My colleagues and everyone else who made a contribution to the running of the congress.

And perhaps most of all all those who entered and gave us one of our best attended events so far.

Keith

Nice to see David Congalton is helping the junior grades this weekend & remaining undefeated

Well maybe Dundee doesn't but I do.

Despite much planning and testing. The gremlins struck tonight. We can't stream video because, I'm told, bandwidth restrictions caused the video streaming to crash. Or something like that. It worked, then it didn't, then it worked, then it didn't so to prevent disruption to the live games we pulled the plug.

The live games started well. We could see the board set up and names, play started and nothing happened. Believe what you see and you'd think all four players are still thinking about their first moves.

So, no live games, no video, no commentary/coaching, no video of commentary/coaching. Very disappointing. We'll try again with the games tomorrow morning but as our Tech Whizz is playing, our support resources are pretty limited.

Other that that it's going well.

Breaking news!

Someone has withdrawn leaving a room available for two nights at the Travel Inn next door. We would take a late entry (up to about 5 pm) if someone wants to take the room. The rooms cost about £52 per night, so some compensation offer to the withdrawer would be reasonable I think. There is also still a room going begging at Travelodge Strathmore Ave for tonight only (cost £19). For either room/late entry call me on 07957 761653

I peviously said there will be commentary/coaching at the venue on the live games, we are also going to attempt a video/sound broadcast of the commentator and audience. We haven't tried this out so comments on its success or otherwise would be welcome.

Quote:Why is it that juniors' grades are so "under-rated". Surely it creates an inconsistency with the grading data, thus compromising its statistical accuracy? Perhaps something which needs looked at? Anyway; that's for another topic.

Why is it that when I post a message this guy's name appears under my name??

I have no idea who he is and I would like to assure everyone that I am not two timing Ian in any way!!

Whoever this stalker is tell him to get lost!

I see A Howie has a sensible statement under his name. Can I please have SNCL Coordinator ?

GG

Richardson entries (10)
Bearsden
Bon Accord
Cathcart
Dundee & Victoria
Edinburgh
Edinburgh West
GlasgowPolytechnic
Hamilton
Oban
WanderingDragons

Spens entries (9)
Castlehill
East Kilbride
Edinburgh B
Edinburgh Civil Service
Hamilton B
Irvine
Kilmarnock
Phones
Troon

Draws for 1st round & quarter-finals to be made at Dundee Congress.
Random draw so could get interesting 1st round matches !

Forgive me, could someone refresh my memory. What is Lightning again?