16-07-2013, 04:39 PM
Geoff Chandler Wrote:Hi,
Just a wee question, do you need PVG clearance if there is another adult in the room who has PVG?
If there are two or more adults present is PVG an issue? (does one of them at least have to have PVG.)
I think I got cleared when the Council employed me to teach chess a number of years ago.
I can remember filling out loads of forms and a personal interview.
Suprisingly I have no criminal record of any kind, although I seem to have spent my life trying to get one.
So do these things run out or do you have to keep topping them up after 5 years or something like that?
And finally what age is it deemed PVG is no longer required?
(I use to pop around to Keith Ruxton's house when he was nipper - am I still allowed to go and see him now he is in his 40's? )
I know I could look this up somewhere but it will be explained in gobbly-gook. (it always is.)
Here I can expect a layman's answer.
(if I'm really lucky I might even get an insult or two which seems to be the way the forum is going these days.)
Hi Geoff,
as far as I know the answers to your questions are.....
You (often) need clearance if working with children or vulnerable adults even if there are other PVG cleared adults in the room. However, if one on one situations are not going to happen then it becomes less important. Think of this extreme example, children attend cup finals at Hampden not all adults in the crowd are PVG disclosed.
More to point is that CS policy is (if I recall correctly) for all arbiters to be PVG disclosed. Because (I presume) it will always be the case that some of the players will be children.
Certificates don't seem to have an expiry date but clearly the more recent the better. The ECF require them to be less than 3 years old (their policy and I would say a wise one) and they don't worry about the difference between Scottish and English versions. They might worry post 2014 if Scotland votes for independence but I really doubt that independence would make much difference to ECF policy or CS policy.
What age - depends on whether you consider Keith to be a vulnerable adult or not. Personally I wouldn't.