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Re: Interesting Position - Andy Howie - 03-12-2013
Phil
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..Ke6 Kf8 Ng5 Takes a while, has to be at least 20 moves
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Unless I missed something?
Re: Interesting Position - Phil Thomas - 03-12-2013
Andy Howie Wrote:Phil
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..Ke6 Kf8 Ng5 Takes a while, has to be at least 20 moves
I see it now -Kf8 will prolong the game beyond 7 further moves but it is equivalent to resigning. Instead of Ng5 white just plays Kf6 picks up the h6 pawn and wins quickly in 20+ moves.
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Re: Interesting Position - Andy Howie - 03-12-2013
Oh good, was worried I had it wrong
Re: Interesting Position - Jonathan Livingstone - 03-12-2013
Looked at this for ages completely baffled. Finally got there, but of course it helps if you realise the black pawn is going down and not up!
Re: Interesting Position - andyburnett - 04-12-2013
Still not seeing it! This is horrendous
Re: Interesting Position - Phil Thomas - 04-12-2013
Phil Thomas Wrote:Andy Howie Wrote:Phil
Andy,
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put on your board
White Pawn on h6
White king on h7 or h8
Black king on f7
Which I'm sure you'll recognise as a well known drawn ending.
Black wishes to play.
1..Nf8
2 h7 Ng6 Mate.
If Nf8 is check ...it doesn't work because
Knights can't lose a tempo while the white king shuffles between h7 and h8.
Nor can the Black king - can only move between f7 and f8
So half of these are drawn and half are won.
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Re: Interesting Position - andyburnett - 04-12-2013
Phil Thomas Wrote:Phil Thomas Wrote:Andy Howie Wrote:Phil
Andy,
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put on your board
White Pawn on h6
White king on h7 or h8
Black king on f7
Which I'm sure you'll recognise as a well known drawn ending.
Black wishes to play.
1..Nf8
2 h7 Ng6 Mate.
If Nf8 is check ...it doesn't work because
Knights can't lose a tempo while the white king shuffles between h7 and h8.
Nor can the Black king - can only move between f7 and f8
So half of these are drawn and half are won.
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Hahaha! Thanks Phil...that is soooo embarrassing
I hereby request that my grading be slashed at least 1500 points with immediate effect
Re: Interesting Position - Patrick McGovern - 04-12-2013
the above analysis looks like my brain during last weeks time scramble
Re: Interesting Position - Phil Thomas - 04-12-2013
Phil Thomas Wrote:Phil Thomas Wrote:Andy Howie Wrote:Pat,
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Re: Interesting Position - Alan Jelfs - 06-12-2013
I think the fact that Andy H got this, but Andy B didn't, shows that arbiting improves your endgame.